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Secular Sunday: How to Actually Talk to Atheists

March 22, 2009

Got a lot of writing and other work to do this weekend, so in lieu of a CFAC post, here’s a link to a post from almost exactly one year ago, by a blogger who goes by Joe the Peacock.

How to Actually Talk to Atheists (If You’re a Christian)

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  1. Tattoo on one’s buttocks? LOL

    Then again… I knew someone who had some kind of poem about footprints on her back… Something about having a bad time whenever someone else was carrying her or some such.

    (Heh. Every time I see “Jesus Saves”, I think of the T-shirt my sis-in-law has that has a boy praying into a Jesus’s lap with the words “Jesus Saves, Jimmy Swallows”. It is offensive, but I cannot help but smile at the childish absurdity. What can I say? I like stupid humor.)

    This guy seems correct on my sentiments with his points.

    I have often said that a greater force is met with a greater resistance. That is just physics right there, but I have not seen a situation where it does not apply socially, too.

    (Neo-Atheists? It almost sounds like someone who just does not want to follow a religion because they are lazy instead of someone who truly does not believe in any gods.)

    It is interesting how he is pointing out some of the same things I argued here about Theists not needing to think beyond the belief in any gods. They are happy with what they have and do not care that they cannot prove it. He seems to show that some people would be very unhappy to actually have to constantly discover what is beyond what is necessary for them to get on with their lives.

    The brain is always filling in gaps from our senses. This is just another gap to them. In turn, we reject all such [em]gaps[/em] as we notice them, but we cannot always fill them ourselves. Some of us still seek a gap that will point to a Creator. Some of us figure we will deal with that as it happens and put no thought towards it (which is what I do). It does not affect us here and now, so there is no reason to waste time on it. (It is the same as Theists wasting no time on re-filling their gaps when they have what they need.)

    I have been asked about God from a “devout Baptist” (who believes that infants who have not acknowledge God’s existence are damned to Hell), and my first thought was “here we go again” because it was a conversation that had nothing to do about God. I was just installing software for them, and bam! Spam!

    Become the prototype! Brilliant! One of my favorite people is a Catholic priest. He does not actively try to convert me or anyone else. He does not condemn my actions. He just helps people. When asked, he will say that it is what God wants him to do. Since my Atheism leads me to believe he is doing it because [em]he[/em] wants to do it (and not [em]He[/em] wants him to do it), I figure the means are justified and figure there is no reason to try to disrupt it.

    Would what I feel is the Truth be better for him? Would picking apart what he believes and pointing out the lack of proof or where his logic runs afoul be better for him? I do not know. I would rather not risk changing the man since I could not control where he would go from there. He is a good man as is, faith and all.

    I know Michael does not believe it, but I believe that religion can change people for better or worse, which includes Theism and Atheism. If someone is miserable in what they believe (in which case, they may [likely] try to make others miserable), perhaps that person needs an alternative.

    Still, I do not know why I enjoy reading Michael’s assessments. It is a gap that I do not bother solving. If I enjoy it and nobody is hurt by it, why ask why?

    • Oh! I also do believe in unicorns. I saw one at a circus. Sure. It was just a mutant goat, but if that is what makes a unicorn, then I am a believer.

      I did not know about the club, but the beer and chocolate would not be worth it since I consume neither.

  2. Now if only I could send a copy of this article to every follower of Cornelius Van Til and his presuppositionalist school of apologetics.

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